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is closely tracking all of this. the progress or lack of progress on the fiscal cliff talks and also wondering who is going to be the next treasury secretary. joining me steve rattner, wall street finance year, former head of president obama's auto task force. thanks for joining us, steve. first of all, what about the scenario that oh let's just let them go over the cliff and won't matter and the markets will view it as a nonevent. what do you think some. >> certainly going to matter. there's no question it's going to matter. it's going to matter to the markets. we don't know how much. this is an unprecedented situation, at least in my lifetime. we've had crises and debt ceilings and all that, but going over a cliff like this is a new one. the markets would be volatile, extremely -- a lot of downward pressure on them. and then the question would be how do businesses and consumers behave and quickly do they pull back? everyone knows the immediate impact from the government coming back and spending wouldn't be that great. the question then is how do businesses and consumers react? i do

. >> this week on "inside washington," heading towards the fiscal cliff. who is going to blink first? >> nobody can win everything. the republicans will have to give on revenue, democrats will have to give on entitlement reform. >> susan rice still in the bull's-eye. >> the concerns i have are greater today than before. >> lunch at the white house whitemitt. who will dare to break the no tax hike pledge? >> republicans who voted against the no tax hike pledged damage the brand for everyone else. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> thomas jefferson said the purpose of government is to enable the people of the nation to live in safety and happiness. jefferson said americans would be ok if they could keep the government from wasting their labors under the pretense of taking care of them. what is your government doing for you today? is it preparing to drive itself over a cliff like thelma and louise? >> despite the claim that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. >> if congress does nothing, every

the fiscal cliff, all of the talk of the talk shows on sunday and of all of the political websites and newsletters, including the national journal hotline, one of my favorite reads, editor in chief reed wilson joining us. good to have you back caller: hi, bill. >> bill: fiscal cliff, 29 or 30 days ago left today? it's pretty simple to me it seems to me if they scheduled a vote in the house of representatives on the tax cut, continuing tax cut for 98% of americans, it would probably pass. don't you think? >> i am not entirely certain about that. i mean the -- i think the democrats have started coming around on their messaging a little bit. at the beginning of this, they were talking about, president obama, too, were talking about extending tax breaks for 98% of americans, 97% of small businesses. >> that's not true. the tax breaks for any -- for income under $250,000 extends to 100% of americans. everybody gets it. >> the president said that friday in pennsylvania. >> obama had started to talk about how everybody would get these tax breaks with the

progressive democrats are going to get. if the fiscal cliff and the deal and what happens if we go off of the cliff. it really is a dnplatform. higher taxs and defense spending and isn't that what their platform said. they want to go off of the fiscal cliff. then negotiations fail president obama will not get blamed. it is someone else. >> gretchen: marjorie that sounds right other than the middle class getting hit with a tax hike isn't everything that ron just part of the dnc. >> it is it a big issue. president obama and really american people don't want to see middle class americans pay additional 2000 in taxes n which is what will happen in addition to cuts to programs . we want to cut and the american people want to see cut. there is it a few things. first more americans would blame the republicans and not president obama if we went off of the fiscal cliff. that is a motivation. >> brian: yeah. >> gretchen: ron, why do they feel that way? >> brian:ip totally agree with you. looking at polls and say republicans will get blamed and so why not runuss off of the cliff. >> republicans s

.com. >>> welcome back. well, in today's edition of "as the fiscal cliff turns," the gop makes a counteroffer and the president takes to twiter. chief washington correspondent john harwood would details on both. >> reporter: i think this is a step in the right direction in terms of progress toward a deal. the house republicans a few days after treasury secretary geithner went to capitol hill, laid out a plan and challenges republicans to come up with one. i think it shows a willingness to engage in talks with the white house. first of all they only call for $800 billion in revenue, half of what the white house wants. they exclude tax rates from that. they do have some specifics on entitlements which include raising medicare age of eligibility from 65 to 67, something talked about in the grand bargain talks over a year ago. they talk about moving to a different inflation adjustment for social security and other government programs. they also talk about reform of medicare to include private sector competition with a traditional fee for service medicare plan. all of those are things that are wit

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